[ARforum] _cheap_ stereo non-see-through hmds?

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I am curious if anyone has any leads on cheap stereo hmds, either 
see-through or non-see-through.  I doubt there are any see-through ones out 
there, but I was wondering if anyone had leads on any opaque ones.

The olympus ones and the current glasstrons are not stereo.   I have not 
been able to find anyone who has stereo-capable i-glasses (at least, folks 
like Intersense don't advertise that the i-glasses they have are 
stereo-capable, and since they only take video in, I'm dubious that they 
are).

Any leads would be appreciated.  By cheap, I mean less than $1000 ...

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From:	Blair MacIntyre <blair@c ............>	Received:	Apr 11, 2001
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Subject:	[ARforum] _cheap_ stereo non-see-through hmds?
FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY --------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I am curious if anyone has any leads on cheap stereo hmds, either see-through or non-see-through. I doubt there are any see-through ones out there, but I was wondering if anyone had leads on any opaque ones. The olympus ones and the current glasstrons are not stereo. I have not been able to find anyone who has stereo-capable i-glasses (at least, folks like Intersense don't advertise that the i-glasses they have are stereo-capable, and since they only take video in, I'm dubious that they are). Any leads would be appreciated. By cheap, I mean less than $1000 ... ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to ARforum-unsubscribe@l ..........

From:	"Yohan Baillot" <baillot@a ...............>	Received:	Apr 11, 2001
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FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY --------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- Build a marketing database and send targeted HTML and text e-mail newsletters to your customers with List Builder. http://www.listbuilder.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi blair , if I recall correctly the I-glasses are line interleaved and not frame interleaved like the Glasstron so you have to have a signal that is correctly conditionned. I think I was using NTSC format because if I remember correctly it is 30Hz line interleaved. Hope this help Yohan _______________________________________________________________________ Yohan BAILLOT Electrical and Computer Engineer Virtual Reality Laboratory, Advanced Information Technology (Code 5580), Naval Research Laboratory, 4555 Overlook Avenue SW, Washington, DC 20375-5337 baillot@a ............... (202) 404 7801 Home : (703) 566 3684 Cell : (407) 222 6359 Fax : (202) 767 1122 Web : www.ait.nrl.navy.mil/people/baillot _______________________________________________________________________ \| -----Original Message----- \| From: Blair MacIntyre [mailto:blair@c ............] \| Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:31 AM \| To: FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY \| Subject: [ARforum] _cheap_ stereo non-see-through hmds? \| \| \| FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY \| \| --------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- \| Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb \| ---------------------------------------------------------------------- \| \| I am curious if anyone has any leads on cheap stereo hmds, either \| see-through or non-see-through. I doubt there are any \| see-through ones out \| there, but I was wondering if anyone had leads on any opaque ones. \| \| The olympus ones and the current glasstrons are not stereo. I have not \| been able to find anyone who has stereo-capable i-glasses (at \| least, folks \| like Intersense don't advertise that the i-glasses they have are \| stereo-capable, and since they only take video in, I'm dubious that they \| are). \| \| Any leads would be appreciated. By cheap, I mean less than $1000 ... \| \| \| ______________________________________________________________________ \| To unsubscribe, write to ARforum-unsubscribe@l .......... \| ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to ARforum-unsubscribe@l ..........

From:	"Yohan Baillot" <baillot@a ...............>	Received:	Apr 11, 2001
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FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY --------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- Build a marketing database and send targeted HTML and text e-mail newsletters to your customers with List Builder. http://www.listbuilder.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Other display pages: http://www.cwonline.com/cyvisor.asp http://www.stereo3d.com/3dhome.htm http://www.inviso.com/eshades.html http://www.olympus-eye-trek.com/ Yohan _______________________________________________________________________ Yohan BAILLOT Electrical and Computer Engineer Virtual Reality Laboratory, Advanced Information Technology (Code 5580), Naval Research Laboratory, 4555 Overlook Avenue SW, Washington, DC 20375-5337 baillot@a ............... (202) 404 7801 Home : (703) 566 3684 Cell : (407) 222 6359 Fax : (202) 767 1122 Web : www.ait.nrl.navy.mil/people/baillot _______________________________________________________________________ \| -----Original Message----- \| From: Dieter Schmalstieg [mailto:dieter@c ..............] \| Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:03 AM \| To: FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY \| Subject: Re: [ARforum] _cheap_ stereo non-see-through hmds? \| \| \| FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY \| \| --------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- \| Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb \| ---------------------------------------------------------------------- \| \| Blair, \| \| i-glasses do take a single line-interleaved video signal \| and can indeed produce stereo. If you order them, be sure to \| get the "classic" version that is able to do that. \| By the end of last year, units were still available on request from IO \| Display Systems. However, not that actual resolution is something like \| 300x200 for each eye. :( \| \| Regards \| Dieter \| \| Dieter Schmalstieg - dieter@i ............... \| \| \| ______________________________________________________________________ \| To unsubscribe, write to ARforum-unsubscribe@l .......... \| ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to ARforum-unsubscribe@l ..........

From:	Blair MacIntyre <blair@c ............>	Received:	Apr 11, 2001
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FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY --------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- Build a marketing database and send targeted HTML and text e-mail newsletters to your customers with List Builder. http://www.listbuilder.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Dieter, I've been looking for stereo i-glasses, but could never really get a clear answer to to which are stereo. I phoned io display systems, and talked to someone named Ross. He told me two things: - the i-glasses 3D model is the one you describe: stereo, low res, $599. - they are coming out with a new model in June, which will be stereo, 800x600 and will be "around $1000" (he wouldn't comit to more info). They haven't decided if it will be alternate scanline or alternate frame stereo, though. --On Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:02 PM +0200 Dieter Schmalstieg <dieter@c ..............> wrote: > FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY > > --------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- > Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Blair, > > i-glasses do take a single line-interleaved video signal > and can indeed produce stereo. If you order them, be sure to > get the "classic" version that is able to do that. > By the end of last year, units were still available on request from IO > Display Systems. However, not that actual resolution is something like > 300x200 for each eye. :( > > Regards > Dieter > > Dieter Schmalstieg - dieter@i ............... > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, write to ARforum-unsubscribe@l .......... ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to ARforum-unsubscribe@l ..........

From:	Dieter Schmalstieg <dieter@c ..............>	Received:	Apr 11, 2001
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FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY --------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Blair, i-glasses do take a single line-interleaved video signal and can indeed produce stereo. If you order them, be sure to get the "classic" version that is able to do that. By the end of last year, units were still available on request from IO Display Systems. However, not that actual resolution is something like 300x200 for each eye. :( Regards Dieter Dieter Schmalstieg - dieter@i ............... ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to ARforum-unsubscribe@l ..........

From:	"Scott S. Fisher" <sfisher@t ...............>	Received:	Apr 13, 2001
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FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY --------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Blair - We use both the i-glasses stereo model as well as a version of the Olympus FMD700 that was modified for stereo. The Olympus is much better in resolution, comfort, etc. but only works with a VGA output which is problematic for (analog) wireless video transmission. Have also heard of some other 800x600 HMDs that will be out soon. -Scott At 10:30 AM 4/11/2001 -0400, you wrote: >FORUM ON AUGMENTED AND VIRTUAL REALITY > >--------------------------- ListBot Sponsor -------------------------- >Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >I am curious if anyone has any leads on cheap stereo hmds, either >see-through or non-see-through. I doubt there are any see-through ones >out there, but I was wondering if anyone had leads on any opaque ones. > >The olympus ones and the current glasstrons are not stereo. I have not >been able to find anyone who has stereo-capable i-glasses (at least, folks >like Intersense don't advertise that the i-glasses they have are >stereo-capable, and since they only take video in, I'm dubious that they are). > >Any leads would be appreciated. By cheap, I mean less than $1000 ... > > >______________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, write to ARforum-unsubscribe@l .......... ________________________________________________________ Scott S. Fisher, Professor Graduate School of Media and Governance Keio University at Shonan Fujisawa +81 466 49 3617 tel +81 466 49 1172 fax sfisher@s ............. ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to ARforum-unsubscribe@l ..........