Powering firewire cameras

PCMCIA cards cannot power firewire cameras.  It is just a sad truth.  =20=

The pcmcia port doesn't have the juice to do it.

USB2 PCMCIA ports can, though;  I've used a USB camera over a usb =20
port from a USB2 PCMCIA card.

The easiest way to get a firewire camera going without an external =20
power supply is to switch to a Powerbook (which all come with 6 pin =20
firewire) and use macosx. :) :)      If Apple would just come out =20
with a tablet, I'd be a happy camper.

On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:08 AM, Daniel Wagner wrote:

> Leach, Matthew wrote:
>
>
>> Unfortunately it isn=92t working, and I=92ve recently discovered that
>> PCMCIA cards may not be able to supply power to external devices (so
>> why they have 6 pin connections I don=92t know).
>>
>> Does anyone else have experience of trying to get something =20
>> similar to
>> work?
>>
>>
> i'm not sure if this answers your questions, but the most
> straight-forward way is to put a powered firewire hub between your
> non-powered firewire-port and the device that needs power. ofcourse =20=

> this
> is bad for a mobile solution since you have to add the hub and a
> powersupply (batteries) for the hub...
>
> does anybody know about PCMCIA firewire (or USB) cards which provide
> powered ports without external power supply? (taking it from the =20
> PCMCIA bus)
>
> bye,
> Daniel
>
>
>

From:	Blair MacIntyre <blair@c ............>	Received:	Jun 2, 2005
To	Daniel Wagner <daniel@i ...............>
Subject:	Re: Powering firewire cameras
PCMCIA cards cannot power firewire cameras. It is just a sad truth. =20= The pcmcia port doesn't have the juice to do it. USB2 PCMCIA ports can, though; I've used a USB camera over a usb =20 port from a USB2 PCMCIA card. The easiest way to get a firewire camera going without an external =20 power supply is to switch to a Powerbook (which all come with 6 pin =20 firewire) and use macosx. :) :) If Apple would just come out =20 with a tablet, I'd be a happy camper. On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:08 AM, Daniel Wagner wrote: > Leach, Matthew wrote: > > >> Unfortunately it isn=92t working, and I=92ve recently discovered that >> PCMCIA cards may not be able to supply power to external devices (so >> why they have 6 pin connections I don=92t know). >> >> Does anyone else have experience of trying to get something =20 >> similar to >> work? >> >> > i'm not sure if this answers your questions, but the most > straight-forward way is to put a powered firewire hub between your > non-powered firewire-port and the device that needs power. ofcourse =20= > this > is bad for a mobile solution since you have to add the hub and a > powersupply (batteries) for the hub... > > does anybody know about PCMCIA firewire (or USB) cards which provide > powered ports without external power supply? (taking it from the =20 > PCMCIA bus) > > bye, > Daniel > > >

From:	Blair MacIntyre <blair@c ............>	Received:	Jun 2, 2005
To	"Leach, Matthew" <M.Leach@n ...........>
Subject:	Re: Powering firewire cameras
Ah! Excellent, I hadn't looked there, even though we use their =20 cameras. I have been looking for something like this for a while (we =20= found one such product once, but it was discontinued when we ordered). I'm also going to give it a try. We have a nice IOGEAR PCMCIA card =20 that has 2 firewire ports and takes 12V in; I'm going to try it with =20= that, in addition to with their cables ... On Jun 2, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Leach, Matthew wrote: > Thanks for all your suggestions. Unfortunately because of the =20 > intended mobility the use of hubs and such isn=92t viable (and as =20 > nice as the apples look I don=92t think I could cope with the switch). > > > > I was considering consulting the electronics department here about =20 > exposing the power and ground wires in the firewire cable, and =20 > attaching a battery (thus obviously voiding the warranty of any =20 > device within 3 metres), but then I found this article on the Point =20= > Grey site: > > > > http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D93&ST=3Dfirefly+pow= er > > > > It seems there might some cables that can draw power from the USB =20 > port and feed it into the firewire cable. If it works I=92ll let you =20= > know. > > > > Thanks > > > > Matthew > > This message is intended for the addressee(s) only and should not =20 > be read, copied or disclosed to anyone else outwith the University =20 > without the permission of the sender. It is your responsibility to =20 > ensure that this message and any attachments are scanned for =20 > viruses or other defects. Napier University does not accept =20 > liability for any loss or damage which may result from this email =20 > or any attachment, or for errors or omissions arising after it was =20 > sent. Email is not a secure medium. Email entering the University's =20= > system is subject to routine monitoring and filtering by the =20 > University.

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To	<artoolkit@h ..................>
Subject:	Powering firewire cameras
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From:	Blair MacIntyre <blair@c ............>	Received:	Jun 2, 2005
To	"Leach, Matthew" <M.Leach@n ...........>
Subject:	Re: Powering firewire cameras
> More of a general AR question, but I was hoping to connect a Point =20 > Grey firefly camera to a HP TC1100 tablet PC, and create a sort of =20 > AR window. Since the tablet PC had no firewire connections I had =20 > to add a PCMCIA card with firewire ports. BTW, Matthew, we've done this (camera on a TC1100) and it works well =20 (we did this during a demo at ISMAR in Tokyo a few years ago, and =20 also had a VizTracker on there; it was cool!); the TC1100 is small =20 and light, and plenty powerful to run the ARToolkit. One thing: if you can afford a Dragonfly, use it instead: - the video quality is WAY better - the speed is WAY higher, especially if you are going to use 320x240 =20= (you'd have to on a laptop, anyway). We wrote a little routine that =20 creates a 320x240 color image from the raw 640x480 bayer image =20 pattern on the dragonfly, and the cpu usage was about half that of =20 the firefly ... even at 640x480, the overhead was much lower. > Unfortunately it isn=92t working, and I=92ve recently discovered that =20= > PCMCIA cards may not be able to supply power to external devices =20 > (so why they have 6 pin connections I don=92t know). > > > > Does anyone else have experience of trying to get something similar =20= > to work? > > > > Thanks > > > > Matthew > > This message is intended for the addressee(s) only and should not =20 > be read, copied or disclosed to anyone else outwith the University =20 > without the permission of the sender. It is your responsibility to =20 > ensure that this message and any attachments are scanned for =20 > viruses or other defects. Napier University does not accept =20 > liability for any loss or damage which may result from this email =20 > or any attachment, or for errors or omissions arising after it was =20 > sent. Email is not a secure medium. Email entering the University's =20= > system is subject to routine monitoring and filtering by the =20 > University.

From:	Daniel Wagner <daniel@i ...............>	Received:	Jun 2, 2005
To	artoolkit@h ..................
Subject:	Re: Powering firewire cameras
This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDE638B9DB7A9877DD745FA8E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leach, Matthew wrote: > Unfortunately it isn=92t working, and I=92ve recently discovered that > PCMCIA cards may not be able to supply power to external devices (so > why they have 6 pin connections I don=92t know). > > Does anyone else have experience of trying to get something similar to > work? > i'm not sure if this answers your questions, but the most straight-forward way is to put a powered firewire hub between your non-powered firewire-port and the device that needs power. ofcourse this is bad for a mobile solution since you have to add the hub and a powersupply (batteries) for the hub... does anybody know about PCMCIA firewire (or USB) cards which provide powered ports without external power supply? (taking it from the PCMCIA b= us) bye, Daniel --------------enigDE638B9DB7A9877DD745FA8E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCnvahQVW9sHd65aQRAmqeAJ0TMFTiPoKYzWlCp1/mBIrxQQyvFQCgq3xE hJRsuJAL7SaKQWYFS2dsfqo= =5vFv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDE638B9DB7A9877DD745FA8E--

From:	Wayne Piekarski <wayne@c ..............>	Received:	Jun 3, 2005
To	"Leach, Matthew" <M.Leach@n ...........>
Subject:	Re: Powering firewire cameras
--Apple-Mail-3--131243361 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed DO NOT CONNECT UP A CAMERA DIRECTLY TO YOUR LAPTOP WITH A BATTERY AND =20= CUSTOM MADE CABLE!!!!! Ok, now that I've said that, we tried to do this a few years ago, and =20= we blew up the firewire controller chip in our Dell 8100. Turns out =20 that some cameras send high voltage spikes down the data lines while =20 they are powering up and this kills some firewire controllers. You =20 may get lucky but you may not get lucky as well. I did a lot of =20 research into this after it happened and it makes a lot of sense. See the following web site for more information: http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/projects/OxCart/www/index.html Project Oxcart was started to replace a broken TSB41AB1 chip located =20 inside our Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop. The chip is a 1394 Firewire =20 controller and was blown by a voltage surge on the firewire cable =20 that is surprisingly quite common once we did some reading on the =20 topic. We decided that rather than pay for a new and expensive =20 motherboard, that it would be straightforward to simply replace the =20 PHY chip to repair the damage. The project was successful and we now =20 have our firewire port working again! regards, Wayne ------------------------------------------------------------------------=20= --- Dr Wayne Piekarski - Researcher / Lecturer pho: =20 +61-8-8302-5070 fax: =20 +61-8-8302-3381 Assistant Director - Wearable Computer Lab mob: =20 +61-407-395-889 School of Computer and Information Science ema: =20 wayne@c .............. University of South Australia www: http://=20 www.tinmith.net On 02/06/2005, at 11:26 PM, Leach, Matthew wrote: > Thanks for all your suggestions. Unfortunately because of the =20 > intended mobility the use of hubs and such isn=92t viable (and as =20 > nice as the apples look I don=92t think I could cope with the switch). > > > > I was considering consulting the electronics department here about =20 > exposing the power and ground wires in the firewire cable, and =20 > attaching a battery (thus obviously voiding the warranty of any =20 > device within 3 metres), but then I found this article on the Point =20= > Grey site: > > > > http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D93&ST=3Dfirefly+pow= er > > > > It seems there might some cables that can draw power from the USB =20 > port and feed it into the firewire cable. If it works I=92ll let you =20= > know. > > > > Thanks > > > > Matthew > > This message is intended for the addressee(s) only and should not =20 > be read, copied or disclosed to anyone else outwith the University =20 > without the permission of the sender. It is your responsibility to =20 > ensure that this message and any attachments are scanned for =20 > viruses or other defects. Napier University does not accept =20 > liability for any loss or damage which may result from this email =20 > or any attachment, or for errors or omissions arising after it was =20 > sent. Email is not a secure medium. Email entering the University's =20= > system is subject to routine monitoring and filtering by the =20 > University. --Apple-Mail-3--131243361 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 <HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; = -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">DO NOT CONNECT UP A CAMERA = DIRECTLY TO YOUR LAPTOP WITH A BATTERY AND CUSTOM MADE = CABLE!!!!!<DIV><BR class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Ok, now = that I've said that, we tried to do this a few years ago, and we blew up = the firewire controller chip in our Dell 8100. Turns out that some = cameras send high voltage spikes down the data lines while they are = powering up and this kills some firewire controllers. You may get lucky = but you may not get lucky as well. I did a lot of research into this = after it happened and it makes a lot of sense.</DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>See the following web site = for more information:</DIV><DIV><A = href=3D"http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/projects/OxCart/www/index.html">http= ://wearables.unisa.edu.au/projects/OxCart/www/index.html</A></DIV><DIV><BR= class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><FONT = class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#333333"><FONT = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2"><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 10px;">Project Oxcart was = started to replace a broken TSB41AB1 chip located inside our Dell = Inspiron 8100 laptop. The chip is a 1394 Firewire controller and was = blown by a voltage surge on the firewire cable that is surprisingly = quite common once we did some reading on the topic. We decided that = rather than pay for a new and expensive motherboard, that it would be = straightforward to simply replace the PHY chip to repair the damage. The = project was successful and we now have our firewire port working = again!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>regards,</DIV><DIV>Wayne<BR><= DIV> <DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier New"><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier = New">---------------------------------------------------------------------= ------</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier = New">Dr Wayne Piekarski - Researcher / Lecturer=A0 =A0 =A0 pho:=A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 +61-8-8302-5070</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"Courier New">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 fax:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = +61-8-8302-3381</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" = face=3D"Courier New">Assistant Director - Wearable Computer Lab=A0 =A0 =A0= mob:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 +61-407-395-889</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT = class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier New">School of Computer and = Information Science=A0 =A0 =A0 ema:=A0 <A = href=3D"mailto:wayne@c ..............">wayne@c ..............</A></FONT></DI= V><DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier New">University = of South Australia=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 www: <A = href=3D"http://www.tinmith.net">http://www.tinmith.net</A></FONT></DIV><DI= V><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier New"><BR = class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV> </DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On = 02/06/2005, at 11:26 PM, Leach, Matthew wrote:</DIV><BR = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; = border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; = -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; = -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV = class=3D"Section1"><P class=3D"MsoNormal"><FONT size=3D"2" = face=3D"Arial"><SPAN style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; = font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Thanks for all your = suggestions.=A0 Unfortunately because of the intended mobility the use = of hubs and such isn=92t viable (and as nice as the apples look I don=92t = think I could cope with the switch).</SPAN><O:P style=3D"font-family: = Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P = class=3D"MsoNormal"><FONT size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><SPAN = style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; = "><O:P style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: = 13.3333px; ">=A0</SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P = class=3D"MsoNormal"><FONT size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><SPAN = style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; = "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Arial; = font-size: 13.3333px; ">I was considering consulting the electronics = department here about exposing the power and ground wires in the = firewire cable, and attaching a battery (thus obviously voiding the = warranty of any device within 3 metres), but then I found this article = on the Point Grey site:</SPAN><O:P style=3D"font-family: Arial; = font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P = class=3D"MsoNormal"><FONT size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><SPAN = style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; = "><O:P style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; 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= font-family:Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: = 13.3333px; ">It seems there might some cables that can draw power from = the USB port and feed it into the firewire cable.=A0 If it works I=92ll = let you know.</SPAN><O:P style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: = 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=3D"MsoNormal"><FONT = size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><SPAN style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; = font-family:Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style=3D"font-family: = Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span" = style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; = ">=A0</SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=3D"MsoNormal"><FONT = size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><SPAN style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; = font-family:Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN = class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: = 13.3333px; ">Thanks</SPAN><O:P style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: = 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class=3D"MsoNormal"><FONT = size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><SPAN style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; 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