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Hello, here are my question and the answer from PTGrey:
I think someone of you may be interested
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My question:
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Hello,
We want to buy 4 PTGrey flea color cameras. But we are not sure about =
these issues:
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-In order to obtain auto-synchronization, Do we need to connect the four =
cameras to the same port of a card? Or only to the same card, each =
camera on each port? Do we need a sync unit?.
-Do we need a frame grabber or a very powerful pc to work with the four =
cameras at 640X480 and 60 fps?. Will this configuration have bandwidth =
problems?
-With 320x240 resolution, Does the camera give us a color image?
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Thank you very much.
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The answer:
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Hello Javier,
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Regarding the bandwidth it depends which format data you are using. If =
you use an 8 bit format, a 640x480 image give around 0.3MB of data. At =
60fps this gives 18MB of images. Firewire 1394a can handle around 40MB, =
so that means you can run 2 cameras with 640x480 at 60fps without =
problem ( 18x2 =3D 36 ). In that case you have to run the 4 cameras with =
one sync unit over 2 buses. You can also run the 4 cameras on one PC =
depending what you are doing. If you only stream the data you need to be =
sure the hard drive can handle the data, that is mainly all.
See following articles:
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D22&ST=3Dbandwidth
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D83&
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D105&ST=3D
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Regarding the color, the flea camera are sending Raw bayer data which =
means it is only Black and White. The color processing is done in the =
PC. Look at following articles :
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D89&ST=3D
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D104&ST=3D
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D187&ST=3D
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D149&ST=3Dcolor
http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D33&ST=3D
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Hope this helps. Do not hesitate to contact me further.
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Javier Barandiaran Martirena
Centro de Estudios e Investigaciones=20
T=E9cnicas de Gipuzkoa CEIT
www.ceit.es
Tfno: (+34) 943 212 800 Ext. : 2246
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-----Original Message-----
From: Blair MacIntyre [mailto:blair@c ............]=20
Sent: martes, 25 de octubre de 2005 16:30
To: Barandiaran Martirena, Javier
Cc: artoolkit@h ..................
Subject: Re: Firewire Cameras
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You should ask Point Grey those questions. You will probably need =20
multiple firewire busses and I suspect a pretty powerful machine; =20
but, they will be able to answer that, I think!
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On Oct 25, 2005, at 5:57 AM, Barandiaran Martirena, Javier wrote:
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> I think this will be our final setup:
> - 4 PTGrey flea color cameras.
> - 1 PTGrey Sync Unit
> - 1 Firewire Hub
>
> What do you think? Do we need a frame grabber or a very power-full =20
> pc in order to work with the four cameras at 640X480 and 60 fps? =20
> With this setup, can we synchronize the cameras without problems?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> _____
>
> Javier Barandiaran Martirena
> Centro de Estudios e Investigaciones
> T=E9cnicas de Gipuzkoa CEIT
> www.ceit.es
> Tfno: (+34) 943 212 800 Ext. : 2246
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blair MacIntyre [mailto:blair@c ............]
> Sent: lunes, 24 de octubre de 2005 15:16
> To: Barandiaran Martirena, Javier
> Cc: artoolkit@h ..................
> Subject: Re: Firewire Cameras
>
> I have no experience with them. But, since they only have 1/4" =20
> ccd, the image quality is probably not much better than most web cams.
>
> blair macintyre
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Barandiaran Martirena, Javier" <jbarandiaran@c ......>
> Date: Monday, Oct 24, 2005 7:04 am
> Subject: Re: Firewire Cameras
>
> Thank you for your help Mr MacIntyre.
>
> These cameras from Imaging Source can be another good option:
> Without Trigger
> DFK 21F04 =96 290 =80 - 345 $
>
> With Trigger
> DFK 21BF04 =96 490 =80 - 585 $
>
> Any of you have experience with them?
> Thanks
>
> Javier Barandiaran Martirena
>
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hello, here are my question and the answer =
from PTGrey:</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I think someone of you may be =
interested</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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lang=3DEN-GB
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>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>My question:</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><i><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Hello,</spa=
n></font></i></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><i><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>We want to =
buy 4 PTGrey
flea color cameras. But we are not sure about these =
issues:</span></font></i></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><i><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </spa=
n></font></i></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><i><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>-In order =
to obtain
auto-synchronization, Do we need to connect the four cameras to the same =
port
of a card? Or only to the same card, each camera on each port? Do we =
need a
sync unit?.</span></font></i></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><i><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>-Do we =
need a frame
grabber or a very powerful pc to work with the four cameras at 640X480 =
and 60
fps?. Will this configuration have bandwidth =
problems?</span></font></i></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><i><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>-With =
320x240
resolution, Does the camera give us a color =
image?</span></font></i></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><i><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </spa=
n></font></i></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><i><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Thank you =
very
much.</span></font></i></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>The answer:</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Hello =
Javier,</span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Regarding the bandwidth it =
depends
which format data you are using. If you use an 8 bit format, a 640x480 =
image
give around 0.3MB of data. At 60fps this gives 18MB of images. Firewire =
1394a
can handle around 40MB, so that means you can run 2 cameras with 640x480 =
at
60fps without problem ( 18x2 =3D 36 ). In that case you have to run the =
4 cameras
with one sync unit over 2 buses. You can also run the 4 cameras on one =
PC
depending what you are doing. If you only stream the data you need to be =
sure
the hard drive can handle the data, that is mainly =
all.</span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>See following =
articles:</span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><a
href=3D"http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D22&S=
T=3Dbandwidth">http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D2=
2&ST=3Dbandwidth</a></span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><a
href=3D"http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D83&"=
>http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D83&</a></sp=
an></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><a
href=3D"http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D105&=
ST">http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D105&ST</=
a>=3D</span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Regarding the color, the =
flea camera
are sending Raw bayer data which means it is only Black and White. The =
color
processing is done in the PC. Look at following articles =
:</span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><a
href=3D"http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D89&S=
T">http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D89&ST</a>=
=3D</span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><a
href=3D"http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D104&=
ST">http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D104&ST</=
a>=3D</span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><a
href=3D"http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D187&=
ST">http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D187&ST</=
a>=3D</span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><a
href=3D"http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D149&=
ST=3Dcolor">http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D149&=
amp;ST=3Dcolor</a></span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'><a
href=3D"http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D33&S=
T">http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=3D4&q=3D33&ST</a>=
=3D</span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Hope this helps. Do not =
hesitate to
contact me further.</span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><b><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b></p>
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>=A0 _____=A0 </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Javier Barandiaran Martirena</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Centro de Estudios e Investigaciones </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>T=E9cnicas de Gipuzkoa CEIT</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>www.ceit.es</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>Tfno:=A0=A0 (+34)=A0=A0=A0 943 212 800 Ext. : =
2246</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Blair MacIntyre [mailto:blair@c ............] <br>
Sent: martes, 25 de octubre de 2005 16:30<br>
To: Barandiaran Martirena, Javier<br>
Cc: artoolkit@h ..................<br>
Subject: Re: Firewire Cameras</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>You should ask Point Grey those questions.=A0 You will probably =
need=A0 </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>multiple firewire busses and I suspect a pretty powerful =
machine;=A0=A0 </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>but, they will be able to answer that, I =
think!</span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>On Oct 25, 2005, at 5:57 AM, Barandiaran Martirena, Javier =
wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> I think this will be our final setup:</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> - 4 PTGrey flea color cameras.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> - 1 PTGrey Sync Unit</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> - 1 Firewire Hub</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> What do you think? Do we need a frame grabber or a very
power-full=A0 </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> pc in order to work with the four cameras at 640X480 and 60 =
fps?=A0 </span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> With this setup, can we synchronize the cameras without =
problems?</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> Thank you very much.</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> _____</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> Javier Barandiaran Martirena</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> Centro de Estudios e Investigaciones</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> T=E9cnicas de Gipuzkoa CEIT</span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'>> www.ceit.es</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> Tfno:=A0=A0 (+34)=A0=A0=A0 943 212 800 Ext. : =
2246</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> -----Original Message-----</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> From: Blair MacIntyre =
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10.0pt'>> Sent: lunes, 24 de octubre de 2005 15:16</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> To: Barandiaran Martirena, Javier</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> Cc: artoolkit@h ..................</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> Subject: Re: Firewire Cameras</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> I have no experience with them.=A0 But, since they only =
have
1/4"=A0 </span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> ccd, the image quality is probably not much better than =
most web
cams.</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> blair macintyre</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> -----Original Message-----</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> From: "Barandiaran Martirena, Javier"
<jbarandiaran@c ......></span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> Date: Monday, Oct 24, 2005 7:04 am</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> Subject: Re: Firewire Cameras</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>> Thank you for your help Mr MacIntyre.</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>>=A0=A0 These cameras from Imaging Source can be another good =
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10.0pt'>>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 DFK 21F04 =96 290 =80 - 345 =
$</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>>=A0=A0=A0=A0 DFK 21BF04 =96 490 =80 - 585 =
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them?</span></font></p>
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10.0pt'>>=A0=A0 Thanks</span></font></p>
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=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Javier=A0=A0 Barandiaran =
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