From: jgoggan@sojourn1.sojourn.com (John Goggan) Subject: MISC: CyberShades (from Chinon) Group Purchase Date: 1 May 1996 22:26:17 GMT Message-ID: <4m8oe9$ls@tkhut.sojourn.com> Organization: Sojourn Systems Ltd. I recently sent this to the VRASP Public List and Homebrew-VR list, but forgot to post it here also. So here it is, a day late... [Note: Price was corrected from $75 shipped to $85 shipped due to some problems obtaining the Group Purchase. Sorry that I couldn't keep it at $75, but $85 is still an excellent price, in my opinion -- and we'll be able to keep it at $85 for sure now.] Well, I've had several requests, so I'm considering doing a group purchase for the people that can't afford the CyberMaxx or i-glasses! Group Purchases that I've done previously. I've found a lead on getting a decent price on some of the Chinon CyberShades 3D Shutter-Glasses. The price would be about $85 shipped-to-your-door and would include the normal retail package -- which includes some games (see below for more details on what is included). Let me know if you are interested -- we need ten people. I'm going to get a pair myself, just to try them out, even though I'll still stick to my i-glasses! as my standard HMD! :) Again, these are shutter-glasses -- so the image is on your monitor, not in the glasses, but they are at least decent enough so that people that can't afford the more expensive HMDs can at least have some fun with 3D. As soon as we get ten people, I'll place the Group Purchase order. Note that this is probably just a one-time quick thing. It won't be a long or repeating process like some of the other Group Purchases... In other words, now or never... (I'll ship international if I have to, but you have to pay for your extra shipping costs). Here is what is included (it's the normal retail box that everyone else would buy in the store, of course): (Taken from the box description that was faxed to me:) - Parallel interface with 12v power supply - Parallel port Y-cable - Advanced LCD shutter glasses with 7' cable - Game software, including drivers and utilities - User's manual The game software included is: - Descent: Destination Saturn - Wolfenstein 3D - Depth Dwellers - Math Rescue - Word Rescue - and at least one other which was cut-off in the fax -- it looks like it might be VirtualSlingShot, but I'm not sure... The games come on a CD-ROM. System Requirements listed for CyberShades: - Windows-compatible IBM PC, 486sx or way higher - 4MB RAM minimum (8MB or higher recommended) - Color monitor with Super VGA - Video card supporting Super VGA - CD-ROM drive (for loading games/drivers/utilities) - Parallel port (port can be shared with any additional device via included Y-cable) If anyone doesn't have a CD-ROM drive, I would be willing to copy the main drivers/utilities to disk for you. Also -- someone mentioned that they might be LCDBIOS compatible -- I checked the LCDBIOS home page... http://www-personal.umich.edu/~dsawdai/lcdbios.html ...and it does appear that they are. In fact, it looks like he actually wrote the LCDBIOS driver that ships with the CyberShades. So, that's cool. I did an Alta-Vista search, and here are some of the sites with info/pricing on the CyberShades. The cheapest I saw was the $139 price, so I think we are getting a decent deal here... Check these sites for more info, although I think I got most of it in this message: http://www.computability.com/Hardware/mmadd.html - sells them for $179 http://www.mmworld.com/resources/backissues/october95/news/flash.html#cyber - mentions them as a Hot New Product http://www.vrplanet.com/chinon3d.htm - gives info about them, price not listed, but I called and they sell them for $189 http://www.thevrstore.com/chinon/cyber.html - gives info and sells them for $139.99 http://www.trucost.com/bd10.html - sells them for $174 And that's all the pricing I could find on the Net -- so it looks good to me so far. If anyone sees a price lower than $85 including shipping, please let me know and I'll cancel the Group Purchase and just by my own pair from there too! I haven't seen anything near the $85 though, so I think this is the best we'll find for now... That's all I have -- I'll be placing the order for ten units soon -- just let me know if you want in on the Group Purchase. - John... jgoggan@sojourn.com or jgoggan@dcg.com (both go to the same place)