[ARToolKit] // Symbian? //

Hi again Julian!

My students have been using ARToolkitPlus on Symbian;  they'll be  
posting the modified source/project, with a sample app, on our web  
site soon.  This will include camera capture and rendering of a simple  
cube using OpenGLES.

We have had some luck using EDGELIB (edgelib.com) on Symbian, although  
it has some problems (they do weird things internally with the  
transformation matrices, which makes it very hard to register/scale/ 
resize graphics in general ways).   I can get them to include a sample  
of that, too.

On Aug 20, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Julian Oliver wrote:

> hi list,
>
> i rather quickly need to come up with a solution for marker tracking  
> and
> pose estimation on the Symbian platform. i also need a basic OpenGL
> scenegraph such that i can load and display textured 3D content.
>
> i'm aware of StbTracker and StbES (which i'd love to hear experiences
> of) but am also interested to know of other approaches if they're
> available.
>
> i'd be very grateful if anyone has any wisdom or solutions for me in
> this regard, on or off-list.
>
> thanks!
>
> -- 
> julian oliver
> http://julianoliver.com
> http://selectparks.net
> messages containing HTML will not be read.
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Blair MacIntyre
Associate Professor, School of Interactive Computing, Georgia  
Institute of Technology
Director, GVU Center Augmented Environments Lab
85 5th Street NW, Atlanta, GA 30308

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From:	Blair MacIntyre <blair@c ............>	Received:	Aug 20, 2008
To	Julian Oliver <julian@s ..............>
Subject:	Re: [ARToolKit] // Symbian? //
Hi again Julian! My students have been using ARToolkitPlus on Symbian; they'll be posting the modified source/project, with a sample app, on our web site soon. This will include camera capture and rendering of a simple cube using OpenGLES. We have had some luck using EDGELIB (edgelib.com) on Symbian, although it has some problems (they do weird things internally with the transformation matrices, which makes it very hard to register/scale/ resize graphics in general ways). I can get them to include a sample of that, too. On Aug 20, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Julian Oliver wrote: > hi list, > > i rather quickly need to come up with a solution for marker tracking > and > pose estimation on the Symbian platform. i also need a basic OpenGL > scenegraph such that i can load and display textured 3D content. > > i'm aware of StbTracker and StbES (which i'd love to hear experiences > of) but am also interested to know of other approaches if they're > available. > > i'd be very grateful if anyone has any wisdom or solutions for me in > this regard, on or off-list. > > thanks! > > -- > julian oliver > http://julianoliver.com > http://selectparks.net > messages containing HTML will not be read. > _______________________________________________ > ARToolKit mailing list > ARToolKit@l ................. > http://lists.hitlabnz.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/artoolkit Blair MacIntyre Associate Professor, School of Interactive Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology Director, GVU Center Augmented Environments Lab 85 5th Street NW, Atlanta, GA 30308 _______________________________________________ ARToolKit mailing list ARToolKit@l ................. http://lists.hitlabnz.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/artoolkit

From:	Blair MacIntyre <blair@c ............>	Received:	Aug 20, 2008
To	Julian Oliver <julian@s ..............>
Subject:	Re: [ARToolKit] // Symbian? //
ETA is "real soon". :) We'd already gotten permission to give it away for free, it just needs to be zipped up and put somewhere (and cleaned up a bit). So I'd say "days, not weeks". On Aug 20, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Julian Oliver wrote: > ..on or around Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 08:37:36AM -0400 Blair MacIntyre > wrote: >> Hi again Julian! > > hey Blair! > >> >> My students have been using ARToolkitPlus on Symbian; they'll be >> posting the modified source/project, with a sample app, on our web >> site >> soon. This will include camera capture and rendering of a simple >> cube >> using OpenGLES. >> > > ahh great. i'm really keen to check it out. if you don't mind me > asking: > is there any ETA on that source? > > i'd dive in and cobble something together myself but i'm flying > extensively right now and so am really short of time (and headspace!). > >> We have had some luck using EDGELIB (edgelib.com) on Symbian, >> although >> it has some problems (they do weird things internally with the >> transformation matrices, which makes it very hard to register/scale/ >> resize graphics in general ways). I can get them to include a >> sample >> of that, too. > > again, thanks. i wondered if you'd write in on all this actually as i > remember you mentioned your team was working on Symbian. > > cheers and hope you're well, > > julian > >> >> On Aug 20, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Julian Oliver wrote: >> >>> hi list, >>> >>> i rather quickly need to come up with a solution for marker tracking >>> and >>> pose estimation on the Symbian platform. i also need a basic OpenGL >>> scenegraph such that i can load and display textured 3D content. >>> >>> i'm aware of StbTracker and StbES (which i'd love to hear >>> experiences >>> of) but am also interested to know of other approaches if they're >>> available. >>> >>> i'd be very grateful if anyone has any wisdom or solutions for me in >>> this regard, on or off-list. >>> >>> thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> julian oliver >>> http://julianoliver.com >>> http://selectparks.net >>> messages containing HTML will not be read. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARToolKit mailing list >>> ARToolKit@l ................. >>> http://lists.hitlabnz.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/artoolkit >> >> Blair MacIntyre >> Associate Professor, School of Interactive Computing, Georgia >> Institute >> of Technology >> Director, GVU Center Augmented Environments Lab >> 85 5th Street NW, Atlanta, GA 30308 >> > > -- > julian oliver > http://julianoliver.com > http://selectparks.net > messages containing HTML will not be read. Blair MacIntyre Associate Professor, School of Interactive Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology Director, GVU Center Augmented Environments Lab 85 5th Street NW, Atlanta, GA 30308 _______________________________________________ ARToolKit mailing list ARToolKit@l ................. http://lists.hitlabnz.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/artoolkit

From:	Julian Oliver <julian@s ..............>	Received:	Aug 20, 2008
To	ARToolkit Mailing List <artoolkit@h ..................>
Subject:	[ARToolKit] // Symbian? //
hi list, i rather quickly need to come up with a solution for marker tracking and pose estimation on the Symbian platform. i also need a basic OpenGL scenegraph such that i can load and display textured 3D content. i'm aware of StbTracker and StbES (which i'd love to hear experiences of) but am also interested to know of other approaches if they're available. i'd be very grateful if anyone has any wisdom or solutions for me in this regard, on or off-list. thanks! -- julian oliver http://julianoliver.com http://selectparks.net messages containing HTML will not be read. _______________________________________________ ARToolKit mailing list ARToolKit@l ................. http://lists.hitlabnz.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/artoolkit

From:	Daniel Wagner <daniel@i ...............>	Received:	Aug 20, 2008
To	ARToolkit Mailing List <artoolkit@h ..................>
Subject:	Re: [ARToolKit] // Symbian? //
Hi Julian, If you don't want to use Studierstube Tracker, then you might want to try ARToolKitPlus. It never had official Symbian support, but is quite easy to make to run on Symbian I am not aware of a full OpenGL implementation on phones. You could try Klimt, which probably comes closest. We were able to run Coin on top of Klimt (on Windows Mobile). I am quite sure though that Coin will not run on Symbian (it is simply too big...). If OpenGL ES is enough (which I'd suggest) then you have many choices. I am not aware of scene-graph implementations speficially for mobile phones either - except the one of Studierstube ES. I believe that there is a port of OpenSG (or OpenScenegraph?) to OpenGL ES, but the problem with all these ports is that they are huge and waste lots of memory and processing power. In the end you need something that was designed to run on a phone. Maybe somebody else knows more. Depending on what you need, you can of course also write your own scene-graph. A simple one should only take a few days to implement. Daniel _______________________________________________ ARToolKit mailing list ARToolKit@l ................. http://lists.hitlabnz.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/artoolkit

From:	Julian Oliver <julian@s ..............>	Received:	Aug 20, 2008
To	Blair MacIntyre <blair@c ............>
Subject:	Re: [ARToolKit] // Symbian? //
..on or around Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 08:37:36AM -0400 Blair MacIntyre wrote: > Hi again Julian! hey Blair! > > My students have been using ARToolkitPlus on Symbian; they'll be > posting the modified source/project, with a sample app, on our web site > soon. This will include camera capture and rendering of a simple cube > using OpenGLES. > ahh great. i'm really keen to check it out. if you don't mind me asking: is there any ETA on that source? i'd dive in and cobble something together myself but i'm flying extensively right now and so am really short of time (and headspace!). > We have had some luck using EDGELIB (edgelib.com) on Symbian, although > it has some problems (they do weird things internally with the > transformation matrices, which makes it very hard to register/scale/ > resize graphics in general ways). I can get them to include a sample > of that, too. again, thanks. i wondered if you'd write in on all this actually as i remember you mentioned your team was working on Symbian. cheers and hope you're well, julian > > On Aug 20, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Julian Oliver wrote: > >> hi list, >> >> i rather quickly need to come up with a solution for marker tracking >> and >> pose estimation on the Symbian platform. i also need a basic OpenGL >> scenegraph such that i can load and display textured 3D content. >> >> i'm aware of StbTracker and StbES (which i'd love to hear experiences >> of) but am also interested to know of other approaches if they're >> available. >> >> i'd be very grateful if anyone has any wisdom or solutions for me in >> this regard, on or off-list. >> >> thanks! >> >> -- >> julian oliver >> http://julianoliver.com >> http://selectparks.net >> messages containing HTML will not be read. >> _______________________________________________ >> ARToolKit mailing list >> ARToolKit@l ................. >> http://lists.hitlabnz.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/artoolkit > > Blair MacIntyre > Associate Professor, School of Interactive Computing, Georgia Institute > of Technology > Director, GVU Center Augmented Environments Lab > 85 5th Street NW, Atlanta, GA 30308 > -- julian oliver http://julianoliver.com http://selectparks.net messages containing HTML will not be read. _______________________________________________ ARToolKit mailing list ARToolKit@l ................. http://lists.hitlabnz.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/artoolkit